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		<title>By: Nina Gryphon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nina Gryphon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Meg,

Glad you like the site.  Planets above the horizon mean that you will be more in the foreground of activities, rather than in the background.  The distribution across houses is otherwise not that important.  The planets' signs, aspects, rulerships and individual house positions, and receptions are much more interesting.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Meg,</p>
<p>Glad you like the site.  Planets above the horizon mean that you will be more in the foreground of activities, rather than in the background.  The distribution across houses is otherwise not that important.  The planets&#8217; signs, aspects, rulerships and individual house positions, and receptions are much more interesting.</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
Nina</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
		<link>http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2007/05/28/astrology-101-the-twelfth-house/#comment-5141</link>
		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
Just found your site and it's great.

I'm a scorpio with 4 planets (including sun) in the 12th house. Moon in virgo. all other planets are clustered in houses 11, 10, and 9, and one in 1, and one in 6.  much of what i've read of 12th house issues aply to me. 

I am curious what it means that my planets are clustered in this manner, and what it means if i have none in houses 5, 7 and 8.
Thanks!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Just found your site and it&#8217;s great.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a scorpio with 4 planets (including sun) in the 12th house. Moon in virgo. all other planets are clustered in houses 11, 10, and 9, and one in 1, and one in 6.  much of what i&#8217;ve read of 12th house issues aply to me. </p>
<p>I am curious what it means that my planets are clustered in this manner, and what it means if i have none in houses 5, 7 and 8.<br />
Thanks!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2007/05/28/astrology-101-the-twelfth-house/#comment-1568</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm having a phantasmagoric Saturn return (12th house). Saturn is conjunct my moon (12th house) conjunct venus. My existance has been dedicated to soul retrieval and the twelvth hose has served as a looking glass. My emotions (moon) bleeds atrocities and with my saturn in virgo in the 12th, I wish to enter into a career of psychological astrology as these placements speak of bringing order to chaos. I searched for this blog hear and now because of this tell-tale, apocalyptic, morbidly fascinating yet organic experience. Many family skeletons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having a phantasmagoric Saturn return (12th house). Saturn is conjunct my moon (12th house) conjunct venus. My existance has been dedicated to soul retrieval and the twelvth hose has served as a looking glass. My emotions (moon) bleeds atrocities and with my saturn in virgo in the 12th, I wish to enter into a career of psychological astrology as these placements speak of bringing order to chaos. I searched for this blog hear and now because of this tell-tale, apocalyptic, morbidly fascinating yet organic experience. Many family skeletons.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerardy</title>
		<link>http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2007/05/28/astrology-101-the-twelfth-house/#comment-1320</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.

I have Saturn and Neptune in Capricorn, and Uranus in Sagittarius in the 12th house. Chiron is retro in Cancer in my 6th house, in direct opposition to all three planets in my 12th.

Below is an expalnation of how this planets have affected me.

I have always been uncomfortable around people. I'm currently 18 years old, and throughtout my short life I've noticed that I am more mature (Capricorn Ascendant) than most of my peers and adults around me. In short, People say I'm weird.

Solution that works for me:  "Whatever, or I don't care"  + Psychic Shields.(mentally rejecting people's opinion)

I always have to consciously prepare myself when I'm whenever I have to go to school. I think of the word 'whatever' when I feel my ego gets hurts(usually by hearing people say rude things about me). And use visualization to create a psychic shield around me to keep away negativity. I have Mercury, ruler of the 6th and 3rd in the 11th, so what people say about me affects me emotioanlly.(Again, Chiron in Cancer Rx)

Note: I say school because I have Gemeni in my 6th house, meaning people I have to work with.

 I have pluto and Venus in Scorpio, in the 10th( reputation and social standing)  I have my sun in the 11th I get noticed a lot, and I ALWAYS get strong reactions from people.

Note: Venus doesn't help!
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I had a very strict upbringing as a child(Saturn in Capricorn). Both of my parents(specially my Father)  were very over protective of my siblings and me. We were always inside the house studying other kid played near our house. My parents are Catholic, and when I was a child my dad was very religious. I remember we went to church every Sunday morning and he voluntered us in some of the church activities.He wanted to raise us with good morals and stuff. As a child my point of view of this was: "Damn, what a drag".

Solution that works for me:

1. As a child, I used to watch A LOT of TV. as means to scape reality.

2. Now, I like to listen to music. I prefer string instruments with romantic lyrics, that I can sing to my heart's content. I still like cartoons, so I watch anime on the internet instead of the TV.

3. I draw whenever I feel blue.

4. Fortunately, my dad has lighten up. He's not the same strict parent that I knew when I was a child. Somehow, he is happier, and so am I.
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As I've said above, My family is very espiritually inclined. I have an uncle who is a priest, (my mother's brother) who was friends with my dad when they were young lads.

Because Neptune and Uranus are in the 12th, I have inherited curiosity for the deeper truths of the universe(Sagittarious in the 12th house cups). My interests has always inclined to more metaphysical insight,(Uranus in Sag). and the actual application of these in daily life(Neptune in Cap); rather than following a definite religion or dogma. Therefore,  I have rejected to follow my families beliefs( Virgo in the 9th house).

Solution that's worked for me:

Read metaphysic books, teach myself astrology, do personal tarot readings
(without my father knowing it of course!)  : p

I'm learning to astral travel in order to learn more about myself,  but it's scary, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>I have Saturn and Neptune in Capricorn, and Uranus in Sagittarius in the 12th house. Chiron is retro in Cancer in my 6th house, in direct opposition to all three planets in my 12th.</p>
<p>Below is an expalnation of how this planets have affected me.</p>
<p>I have always been uncomfortable around people. I&#8217;m currently 18 years old, and throughtout my short life I&#8217;ve noticed that I am more mature (Capricorn Ascendant) than most of my peers and adults around me. In short, People say I&#8217;m weird.</p>
<p>Solution that works for me:  &#8220;Whatever, or I don&#8217;t care&#8221;  + Psychic Shields.(mentally rejecting people&#8217;s opinion)</p>
<p>I always have to consciously prepare myself when I&#8217;m whenever I have to go to school. I think of the word &#8216;whatever&#8217; when I feel my ego gets hurts(usually by hearing people say rude things about me). And use visualization to create a psychic shield around me to keep away negativity. I have Mercury, ruler of the 6th and 3rd in the 11th, so what people say about me affects me emotioanlly.(Again, Chiron in Cancer Rx)</p>
<p>Note: I say school because I have Gemeni in my 6th house, meaning people I have to work with.</p>
<p> I have pluto and Venus in Scorpio, in the 10th( reputation and social standing)  I have my sun in the 11th I get noticed a lot, and I ALWAYS get strong reactions from people.</p>
<p>Note: Venus doesn&#8217;t help!<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
I had a very strict upbringing as a child(Saturn in Capricorn). Both of my parents(specially my Father)  were very over protective of my siblings and me. We were always inside the house studying other kid played near our house. My parents are Catholic, and when I was a child my dad was very religious. I remember we went to church every Sunday morning and he voluntered us in some of the church activities.He wanted to raise us with good morals and stuff. As a child my point of view of this was: &#8220;Damn, what a drag&#8221;.</p>
<p>Solution that works for me:</p>
<p>1. As a child, I used to watch A LOT of TV. as means to scape reality.</p>
<p>2. Now, I like to listen to music. I prefer string instruments with romantic lyrics, that I can sing to my heart&#8217;s content. I still like cartoons, so I watch anime on the internet instead of the TV.</p>
<p>3. I draw whenever I feel blue.</p>
<p>4. Fortunately, my dad has lighten up. He&#8217;s not the same strict parent that I knew when I was a child. Somehow, he is happier, and so am I.<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
As I&#8217;ve said above, My family is very espiritually inclined. I have an uncle who is a priest, (my mother&#8217;s brother) who was friends with my dad when they were young lads.</p>
<p>Because Neptune and Uranus are in the 12th, I have inherited curiosity for the deeper truths of the universe(Sagittarious in the 12th house cups). My interests has always inclined to more metaphysical insight,(Uranus in Sag). and the actual application of these in daily life(Neptune in Cap); rather than following a definite religion or dogma. Therefore,  I have rejected to follow my families beliefs( Virgo in the 9th house).</p>
<p>Solution that&#8217;s worked for me:</p>
<p>Read metaphysic books, teach myself astrology, do personal tarot readings<br />
(without my father knowing it of course!)  : p</p>
<p>I&#8217;m learning to astral travel in order to learn more about myself,  but it&#8217;s scary, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Noble</title>
		<link>http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2007/05/28/astrology-101-the-twelfth-house/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have anything in my 12th house in my natal chart, but many years now I have had Pluto going through this house, and at the moment it opposes my natal Uranus.  Pluto is coming towards my ascendent which is 0 degrees Capricorn, and with Uranus now in my sun sign which has a natal conjunction of Mars and Sun, with Neptune in my moon sign which has a natal conjunction of moon and mercury, and venus at the latter end of the sign, I am certainly having a lot of problems.  Change and not necessarily for the better, It is also coming to my Saturn return, and my natal Jupiter is unaspected in Capricorn, I don't understand how things are supposed to progress.  Certainly, Pluto the planet of death and rebirth is and has been causing difficulties materially, as well as emotionally. Will there be any improvement when Pluto goes past my Ascendent in 2009?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have anything in my 12th house in my natal chart, but many years now I have had Pluto going through this house, and at the moment it opposes my natal Uranus.  Pluto is coming towards my ascendent which is 0 degrees Capricorn, and with Uranus now in my sun sign which has a natal conjunction of Mars and Sun, with Neptune in my moon sign which has a natal conjunction of moon and mercury, and venus at the latter end of the sign, I am certainly having a lot of problems.  Change and not necessarily for the better, It is also coming to my Saturn return, and my natal Jupiter is unaspected in Capricorn, I don&#8217;t understand how things are supposed to progress.  Certainly, Pluto the planet of death and rebirth is and has been causing difficulties materially, as well as emotionally. Will there be any improvement when Pluto goes past my Ascendent in 2009?</p>
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		<title>By: zeineb</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeineb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi
i have saturn conjuct jupiter in my 12 house and also pluto, and they are all in libra. can anyone please tell me something about it. and my sun in leo in the 10th is in opposition with my moon in aquarius which is causing me many problems:) push me pull me:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi<br />
i have saturn conjuct jupiter in my 12 house and also pluto, and they are all in libra. can anyone please tell me something about it. and my sun in leo in the 10th is in opposition with my moon in aquarius which is causing me many problems:) push me pull me:)</p>
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		<title>By: Celesty</title>
		<link>http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2007/05/28/astrology-101-the-twelfth-house/#comment-1327</link>
		<dc:creator>Celesty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars, all in the 12th House. The moon and my ascendent is in the 1st House.
My Sun, Mercury and Venus are all Aries. Mars and Moon are both in Taurus.

I have been sick a lot in my life and suffered from depression, asthma and anxiety and compulsiveness. I have been having some really tough moments where I only prayed not to go insane. When I was 14 I had an affair with some guy at elementary school at toilet and got almost kicked out of the school.  I also started goin on rave partys. My family was very ashamed of me.

However there are also positive things about 12 house. I learned through years of self-studying and personal inner growth how to live better and understand myself and other people better. I have been writing self analysis for more than 10 years now. I know how to function in a society more than most of the people. I am also very intersting in art and creativness (music, painting, writing, theater). I also have some extrasensory abilities such as precognition, serendipity, intuition, synesthesy, telepathy, etc ... 12th house is something very special.

I would be happy to read any comment about my astro position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars, all in the 12th House. The moon and my ascendent is in the 1st House.<br />
My Sun, Mercury and Venus are all Aries. Mars and Moon are both in Taurus.</p>
<p>I have been sick a lot in my life and suffered from depression, asthma and anxiety and compulsiveness. I have been having some really tough moments where I only prayed not to go insane. When I was 14 I had an affair with some guy at elementary school at toilet and got almost kicked out of the school.  I also started goin on rave partys. My family was very ashamed of me.</p>
<p>However there are also positive things about 12 house. I learned through years of self-studying and personal inner growth how to live better and understand myself and other people better. I have been writing self analysis for more than 10 years now. I know how to function in a society more than most of the people. I am also very intersting in art and creativness (music, painting, writing, theater). I also have some extrasensory abilities such as precognition, serendipity, intuition, synesthesy, telepathy, etc &#8230; 12th house is something very special.</p>
<p>I would be happy to read any comment about my astro position.</p>
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		<title>By: jenn ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenn ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi  my 12th house is empty, with gemini on cusp, ruled by mercury in libra in, according to differing sources, the 4th house or 5th not sure which. i am very very sensitive in every way, i often can sense kids' and animals, deepest neediest needs, instantly, though i never did acquire the bachelors degree needed to be employed professionally doing this---to many learning disabilities impede my progress in college, where well-rounded ness is required, but very difficult--i could be helping lots of needy people---but found it grueling to pound out even an assoc degree--which only qualifies one for clerical or entry-level type positions--nothing in-depth there. i was severely depressed as a kid, loner because no-one wanted to play with me or talk with me. my friends were kids who were similarly soundly "rejected" themselves!! this loner-depression thing, is an on-off again theme in my adult years. i desperately wish to work helping others who feel this way and are lost in it as i once was---am wading into getting my bs degree, but time and money, i am a single mother drawing poverty wages, are against me. also, money SCARES me!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi  my 12th house is empty, with gemini on cusp, ruled by mercury in libra in, according to differing sources, the 4th house or 5th not sure which. i am very very sensitive in every way, i often can sense kids&#8217; and animals, deepest neediest needs, instantly, though i never did acquire the bachelors degree needed to be employed professionally doing this&#8212;to many learning disabilities impede my progress in college, where well-rounded ness is required, but very difficult&#8211;i could be helping lots of needy people&#8212;but found it grueling to pound out even an assoc degree&#8211;which only qualifies one for clerical or entry-level type positions&#8211;nothing in-depth there. i was severely depressed as a kid, loner because no-one wanted to play with me or talk with me. my friends were kids who were similarly soundly &#8220;rejected&#8221; themselves!! this loner-depression thing, is an on-off again theme in my adult years. i desperately wish to work helping others who feel this way and are lost in it as i once was&#8212;am wading into getting my bs degree, but time and money, i am a single mother drawing poverty wages, are against me. also, money SCARES me!!</p>
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		<title>By: gryphonastrology</title>
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		<dc:creator>gryphonastrology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Amanda,

How interesting!  What a positive use of your Mars.  It sounds like Mercury (ruler of doctors, and specifically the hands) is very important in your chart, ruling both Saturn and Mars.  If Mercury is strong, that can mitigate a lot of the problems with Mars.

Nina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amanda,</p>
<p>How interesting!  What a positive use of your Mars.  It sounds like Mercury (ruler of doctors, and specifically the hands) is very important in your chart, ruling both Saturn and Mars.  If Mercury is strong, that can mitigate a lot of the problems with Mars.</p>
<p>Nina</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I have a 12th house Mars in Gemini.  Mars is involved in a grand cross: it is opposite Neptune in Sag, square Saturn in Virgo, and square MC in Pisces.  Somewhat blindly, the way I've decided to express this is to work as a physician in a surgery-esque subspecialty.  This expression seems positive.

As an adolescent and younger adult, however, I struggled with depression and an inability to properly direct my actions or energy.  Although I am still prone to attacks of anxiety, confusion, and self-doubt, these are somewhat mitigated by previous experiences and a sense of self-awareness.

Thanks for sharing your stories and advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have a 12th house Mars in Gemini.  Mars is involved in a grand cross: it is opposite Neptune in Sag, square Saturn in Virgo, and square MC in Pisces.  Somewhat blindly, the way I&#8217;ve decided to express this is to work as a physician in a surgery-esque subspecialty.  This expression seems positive.</p>
<p>As an adolescent and younger adult, however, I struggled with depression and an inability to properly direct my actions or energy.  Although I am still prone to attacks of anxiety, confusion, and self-doubt, these are somewhat mitigated by previous experiences and a sense of self-awareness.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your stories and advice.</p>
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