Free Astrology Advice: Horary Astrology – Will We Have Another Baby?

May 25, 2007 by  

“Tickling the Baby” illustrating Horary Question - Horoscope - Will I Conceive?  Fertility Astrology.

Horary Question:

My husband and I have two wonderful children. We are both 40. We both want another child but it doesn’t seem to be happening for us. We have had all testing done and the doctors can’t give us any reason as to why we are not getting pregnant. We did get pregnant 6 years ago; but sadly miscarried at 9 weeks. We are both in good health with the exception of myself having high cholesterol, which I do have under control with diet and exercise.

—M.

Nina Gryphon:

Dear M.,

I get many letters similar to yours; I never knew there were so many women in this world longing for a child. I really wish it were possible for every woman who wants a child to conceive. I cast a horoscope for your horary question, which is below:

Horoscope for Horary Question - Horoscope - Will I Conceive?  Fertility Astrology.

Since you are about 40, we will need to find an aspect between the planet showing you and the planet showing the baby. If the same question was asked by someone in their 20s, general indications of fertility in the horoscope would be sufficient. But as the odds drop over time, we need stronger and stronger evidence to show conception.

You are represented by the Moon, ruler of the first house of self, and the baby/your fertility potential is indicated by ruler of the fifth house of children. Your husband is represented by her seventh house of partners, and its ruler, Saturn, and his ability to conceive is indicated by Venus, ruler of his fifth house. We will look at the condition of all these planets, which will help us determine just how fertile the two of you are, and potentially, where the obstacles to fertility may lie.

The Moon is in Virgo, which is a barren sign, and afflicts your fifth house of fertility by a sextile aspect. This is not an auspicious start, but it can still be overcome by other positive evidence. The significator of the potential baby is Mars in Aries, which is a neutrally fertile sign. Mars is in the ninth house, where it is cadent and therefore difficult to express its energy.

Your husband’s significator, Saturn, is in a barren sign, Leo. Saturn also afflicts your fifth house, your fertility, by a square aspect. His fifth house is ruled by Venus in the fertile sign of Cancer, which is very positive. However, I am concerned that this testimony alone is not enough to promise a child. This fertile Venus applies to trine your house of fertility, which is a positive factor, but it is tucked away in the 12th house, and so does not have the oomph needed to manifest.

We do not see an applying aspect between the Moon and Mars, which, combined with the testimonies for infertility, does not promise a child. We do see an applying aspect between the Moon and Mercury. Mercury can signify doctors, so you may well make another trip to the physician either for testing or for fertility treatment. I do wish you much luck.

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Comments

3 Responses to “Free Astrology Advice: Horary Astrology – Will We Have Another Baby?”

  1. Horarist on May 26th, 2007 10:29 am

    Hi,

    There are some positive indications here that were overlooked in the reading:

    1. Late Ascendant points to a late question: Either it is too late for the querent to have another child or she is already pregnant.
    2. Asc is in a fertile sign, as are Cusp of the 5th and Lord of the 11th.
    3. Moon as the querent was very recently conjunct strong Mars Lord 5th by Antiscia.
    4. Moon was also square Jupiter co-ruler of the 5th intercepted the 5th in its own domicile, then sextile Venus Lord 11th in the hidden 12th. Jupiter and Venus are both benefics.
    5. Mars and Venus lords of 5th and 11th are both cadent – pointing to something that is still hidden.

    Considering the above, how can one overlook the possibility that the querent is newly pregnant, but still not aware of it ?

    Thanks.

  2. gryphonastrology on May 26th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Hi Horarist,

    Thank you for your fascinating comments. I wish I had half of your self-confidence when presenting my astrological findings, but the more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. As usual, I have contacted the querent to let her know her reading is available, and I also requested that she let me know about any pregnancies at the time of the question (she sent it in a couple of months ago). If I hear anything, I will let you know.

    In the meantime, let us examine your argument point by point:

    1. Late Ascendant points to a late question: Either it is too late for the querent to have another child or she is already pregnant.

    +++Not exactly. In my experience, late ascendants tend to indicate the person is desperate, and feeling at the end of their rope.

    2. Asc is in a fertile sign, as are Cusp of the 5th and Lord of the 11th.

    +++You bet. And you will find that in any chart, at least one out of four house cusps are in fertile signs, one in a barren sign, and two in medium/neutral signs. This is why the ancients did not rely on house cusps in determining fertility, since probability distribution makes examining the signs on the cusps moot. Something is always going to be fertile. I have addressed Lord 11 in the reading.

    3. Moon as the querent was very recently conjunct strong Mars Lord 5th by Antiscia.

    +++Absolutely. I have never yet found pregnancy (or death, for that matter) to be shown by something as subtle as antiscia – it’s either there or it’s not. Very binary thing, pregnancy.

    4. Moon was also square Jupiter co-ruler of the 5th intercepted the 5th in its own domicile, then sextile Venus Lord 11th in the hidden 12th. Jupiter and Venus are both benefics.

    +++Most interesting technique; I have not yet encountered the use of house co-rulers as significators of the matter. The problem is that even if this technique did work, the pregnancy would be shown as something in the past. The question was “Will I have a baby?” Not “Was I ever, or am I now, pregnant?”

    5. Mars and Venus lords of 5th and 11th are both cadent – pointing to something that is still hidden.
    +++Or unable to manifest.

    For the sake of the querent, I truly hope you are right – I am sure nothing would make her happier. I don’t quite see the astrological argument for this, however.

    Warmly,
    Nina

  3. Arti on October 23rd, 2008 2:21 am

    i mean in my DOB its 1975

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