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	<title>Comments on: Astrology of Missing People:  The Missing Local Student</title>
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		<title>By: gryphonastrology</title>
		<link>http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2007/01/25/astrology-of-missing-people-the-missing-local-student/#comment-871</link>
		<dc:creator>gryphonastrology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ken,

After thinking about this chart a bit more, I think Mars does represent the girl's condition accurately.  I was in a workshop taught by John Frawley where he said that in this type of context (life or death situation), exaltation can mean the person is dead (i.e.: "went up to heaven").  He showed a lunar return chart of a stewardess who was on a plane that exploded, she fell 30K feet and lived.  In the lunar return, her significator (Venus) turned rx at 29 Aquarius, one degree before entering exaltation in Pisces.  In this context, exaltation meant leaving the body.

In this chart, not only is Mars exalted, but it is at the top of the chart, which is as high as it gets.  This is why I said "I hope that this is not meant metaphorically," though obviously it was.  Combined with Mars going to meet the Part of Death, the conclusion is pretty clear.

I hadn't thought of the 10th house as being in the news, but it certainly makes sense to me.

Warmly,
Nina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ken,</p>
<p>After thinking about this chart a bit more, I think Mars does represent the girl&#8217;s condition accurately.  I was in a workshop taught by John Frawley where he said that in this type of context (life or death situation), exaltation can mean the person is dead (i.e.: &#8220;went up to heaven&#8221;).  He showed a lunar return chart of a stewardess who was on a plane that exploded, she fell 30K feet and lived.  In the lunar return, her significator (Venus) turned rx at 29 Aquarius, one degree before entering exaltation in Pisces.  In this context, exaltation meant leaving the body.</p>
<p>In this chart, not only is Mars exalted, but it is at the top of the chart, which is as high as it gets.  This is why I said &#8220;I hope that this is not meant metaphorically,&#8221; though obviously it was.  Combined with Mars going to meet the Part of Death, the conclusion is pretty clear.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t thought of the 10th house as being in the news, but it certainly makes sense to me.</p>
<p>Warmly,<br />
Nina</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Nina,

As usual, I used Mars to represent the missing person. At the first glance, as Mars is exalted and close to 10th house, I thought she is fine and she will be found alive soon. Nevertheless, the outcome is a tragedy. I would like to ask, (1) as a co-significator, why Moon shows the outcome better than Mars in this case? When should we use Moon to replace the first house ruler to represent the querent when we read a chart? (2) Since Mars is in exaltation, it should tell something about the situation. With the hind sight, I guess that means the news about the missing incident is widely reported and thoroughly investigated. How do you think?

Yours,
Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Nina,</p>
<p>As usual, I used Mars to represent the missing person. At the first glance, as Mars is exalted and close to 10th house, I thought she is fine and she will be found alive soon. Nevertheless, the outcome is a tragedy. I would like to ask, (1) as a co-significator, why Moon shows the outcome better than Mars in this case? When should we use Moon to replace the first house ruler to represent the querent when we read a chart? (2) Since Mars is in exaltation, it should tell something about the situation. With the hind sight, I guess that means the news about the missing incident is widely reported and thoroughly investigated. How do you think?</p>
<p>Yours,<br />
Ken</p>
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		<title>By: gryphonastrology</title>
		<link>http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2007/01/25/astrology-of-missing-people-the-missing-local-student/#comment-868</link>
		<dc:creator>gryphonastrology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yuzuru - you definitely got the "locked up" part right.  I suspected suicide because of the 12th house meaning of self-undoing.

Christine - see above; I used the 1st, as per Lilly's instructions.

Warmly,
Nina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuzuru - you definitely got the &#8220;locked up&#8221; part right.  I suspected suicide because of the 12th house meaning of self-undoing.</p>
<p>Christine - see above; I used the 1st, as per Lilly&#8217;s instructions.</p>
<p>Warmly,<br />
Nina</p>
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		<title>By: Christine N. Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine N. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Nina - would you be willing to say which house you would take for the missing person, even if you prefer to hold back your analysis for a bit? I know that in a horary, you take the house that represents that person's relationship to the querent, be it "some stranger" (7th), "my sister" (3rd), or what have you. Is it any different for a chart taken for the last known location/time seen of the person? (Clumsy sentence construction, but you understand.)
Best wishes,
Christine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Nina - would you be willing to say which house you would take for the missing person, even if you prefer to hold back your analysis for a bit? I know that in a horary, you take the house that represents that person&#8217;s relationship to the querent, be it &#8220;some stranger&#8221; (7th), &#8220;my sister&#8221; (3rd), or what have you. Is it any different for a chart taken for the last known location/time seen of the person? (Clumsy sentence construction, but you understand.)<br />
Best wishes,<br />
Christine</p>
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		<title>By: Yuzuru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuzuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The moon is translating the light from venus to Saturn, lord of 12th, so I think she is being held locked by someone, and not runaway or something like that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The moon is translating the light from venus to Saturn, lord of 12th, so I think she is being held locked by someone, and not runaway or something like that</p>
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