Comments on: Celebrity Astrology: Horoscope of Augusto Pinochet Ugarte http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/12/12/celebrity-astrology-horoscope-of-augusto-pinochet-ugarte/ An Astrology Blog on Horary Astrology, Mundane Astrology and Natal Horoscopes. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:49:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: -pd= http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/12/12/celebrity-astrology-horoscope-of-augusto-pinochet-ugarte/#comment-674 -pd= Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:37:02 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=345#comment-674 It's a bit of a challenge for me to "see" the man behind this chart without benefit of the "modern" planets Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. But this does tell a lot, especially the Moon-Saturn conjunction in Cancer on the cusp of the 2nd, telling a tale of a brutally cold upbringing that led him to ally himself with his country's moneyed class. (From what I've read, Chile has had a long history of being sharply and sometimes violently divided between the propertied and laboring classes.) And the 6th house Sun would incline to a life of service to the interests of others. But I wonder why you consider the Mars in Leo "relatively weak." To my way of thinking, it is strong in its own fiery triplicity, and inclines one to situations of command and a love of power. I'd certainly vote for an Aries MC with Mars ruling, for a military career. It’s a bit of a challenge for me to “see” the man behind this chart without benefit of the “modern” planets Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. But this does tell a lot, especially the Moon-Saturn conjunction in Cancer on the cusp of the 2nd, telling a tale of a brutally cold upbringing that led him to ally himself with his country’s moneyed class. (From what I’ve read, Chile has had a long history of being sharply and sometimes violently divided between the propertied and laboring classes.) And the 6th house Sun would incline to a life of service to the interests of others.
But I wonder why you consider the Mars in Leo “relatively weak.” To my way of thinking, it is strong in its own fiery triplicity, and inclines one to situations of command and a love of power.
I’d certainly vote for an Aries MC with Mars ruling, for a military career.

]]> By: gryphonastrology http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/12/12/celebrity-astrology-horoscope-of-augusto-pinochet-ugarte/#comment-673 gryphonastrology Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:21:03 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=345#comment-673 Dear Gary, Yes, that is what I meant - thanks for catching it. This also makes me wonder about Mars ruling the 10th, in case he was born a few moments after 7:30. Warmly, Nina Dear Gary,

Yes, that is what I meant - thanks for catching it. This also makes me wonder about Mars ruling the 10th, in case he was born a few moments after 7:30.

Warmly,
Nina

]]> By: Gary Calderone http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/12/12/celebrity-astrology-horoscope-of-augusto-pinochet-ugarte/#comment-672 Gary Calderone Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:16:41 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=345#comment-672 On Aug 15, 1915 the Moon was in Libra. Did you mean the solar eclipse on Aug 10th at 17 Leo? That would tie into his natal Mercury/Mars square (Mercury being L1 makes it all the more important). regards G. On Aug 15, 1915 the Moon was in Libra. Did you mean the solar eclipse on Aug 10th at 17 Leo? That would tie into his natal Mercury/Mars square (Mercury being L1 makes it all the more important).
regards
G.

]]> By: gryphonastrology http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/12/12/celebrity-astrology-horoscope-of-augusto-pinochet-ugarte/#comment-671 gryphonastrology Wed, 13 Dec 2006 05:00:41 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=345#comment-671 Dear Yuzuru, Thanks for the trackback. I find your proposed rectification of Pinochet's chart using firdaria very interesting and suggestive. I think we are actually in agreement on the fact that Pinochet was not evil, as much as he simply did not care very much about other people. However, and this is why I spent some time dwelling on this, he was going to have an illustrious career no matter which way you sliced it. The combination of the personality and the career would give the predictable result of ruthlessness to his enemies - he was famously cavalier upon learning of the suicide of Allende, and in recordings from that time, he joked about the difficulty of disposing of Allende's body. Cold and careerist, I would say. Warmly, Nina Dear Yuzuru,

Thanks for the trackback. I find your proposed rectification of Pinochet’s chart using firdaria very interesting and suggestive. I think we are actually in agreement on the fact that Pinochet was not evil, as much as he simply did not care very much about other people.

However, and this is why I spent some time dwelling on this, he was going to have an illustrious career no matter which way you sliced it. The combination of the personality and the career would give the predictable result of ruthlessness to his enemies - he was famously cavalier upon learning of the suicide of Allende, and in recordings from that time, he joked about the difficulty of disposing of Allende’s body. Cold and careerist, I would say.

Warmly,
Nina

]]> By: Pinochet « episthemologie http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/12/12/celebrity-astrology-horoscope-of-augusto-pinochet-ugarte/#comment-670 Pinochet « episthemologie Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:37:06 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=345#comment-670 [...] Por ocasiao da morte, é inevitável que astrólogos se questionem sobre o caráter desse homem. A nina do gryphon astrology fez uma análise breve da personalidade do homem e de sua vida política. Uma das coisas que acho perda de tempo sao as tentativas de caracterizar sua “maldade”. Nao vejo uma maldade particular nesse tipo de homem. O que vejo é uma covardia e um orgulho narcisista/hipócrita, que impede que veja as barbaridades que comete em funçao de “crenças” que na verdade defende para ganho próprio. Se Pinochet foi assassino, também o é Bush, e também dona Margaret Tatcher, que elogiou Pinochet por “estabelecer a democracia na américa latina” e também o monetarista Milton Friedmann, economista que também morreu por esses dias, que foi “consultor informal” de Pinochet e tinha como lema que “a liberdade civil vem da liberdade economica”. [...] [...] Por ocasiao da morte, é inevitável que astrólogos se questionem sobre o caráter desse homem. A nina do gryphon astrology fez uma análise breve da personalidade do homem e de sua vida política. Uma das coisas que acho perda de tempo sao as tentativas de caracterizar sua “maldade”. Nao vejo uma maldade particular nesse tipo de homem. O que vejo é uma covardia e um orgulho narcisista/hipócrita, que impede que veja as barbaridades que comete em funçao de “crenças” que na verdade defende para ganho próprio. Se Pinochet foi assassino, também o é Bush, e também dona Margaret Tatcher, que elogiou Pinochet por “estabelecer a democracia na américa latina” e também o monetarista Milton Friedmann, economista que também morreu por esses dias, que foi “consultor informal” de Pinochet e tinha como lema que “a liberdade civil vem da liberdade economica”. [...]

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