Comments on: Astrology of Current Affairs: The Astrological Path to 9/11 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/09/12/astrology-of-current-affairs-the-astrological-path-to-911/ An Astrology Blog on Horary Astrology, Mundane Astrology and Natal Horoscopes. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:59:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Carla Matra http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/09/12/astrology-of-current-affairs-the-astrological-path-to-911/#comment-332 Carla Matra Tue, 15 May 2007 01:54:45 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=122#comment-332 Is there a reference point similar to the Grand Conjunction that could be utilized for a person (versus a country) if their birth time is unknown? Thanks, Carla. Is there a reference point similar to the Grand Conjunction that could be utilized for a person (versus a country) if their birth time is unknown?
Thanks,
Carla.

]]> By: gryphonastrology http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/09/12/astrology-of-current-affairs-the-astrological-path-to-911/#comment-330 gryphonastrology Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:54:56 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=122#comment-330 Hi Gene, Thanks for visiting. The challenge, in my experience, with rectification is: how long is a piece of string? All events will not be covered by a particular birthtime. This is one reason why I strongly prefer the ancient Arabic approach of using the preceding Grand Conjunction, which is the "clock" measuring the birth and demise of countries and dynasties. Warmly, Nina Hi Gene,

Thanks for visiting. The challenge, in my experience, with rectification is: how long is a piece of string? All events will not be covered by a particular birthtime. This is one reason why I strongly prefer the ancient Arabic approach of using the preceding Grand Conjunction, which is the “clock” measuring the birth and demise of countries and dynasties.

Warmly,
Nina

]]> By: Gene Ray http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/09/12/astrology-of-current-affairs-the-astrological-path-to-911/#comment-331 Gene Ray Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:21:11 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=122#comment-331 Hello all I think if you progress a birth chart of 9d 11m Gemini rising to 9/11 you will see the necessary aspects. Based on July 4. 1776, 2.20 am, Philidelphia. You may know of Robert Hands comments about the clock on the back of the 100 dollar bill. It reads about 2;21 and of course was a 12 hour clock and so am or pm are both possible. I came up with my 9d Gemini 11m chart without the knowdledge of the clock (so Im off about 1 min or so). I came up with this chart lone before 9/11 as well. It seems ironical that the numbers 9 & 11 agree. Gene Ray Founder, The Astrologers Fourm Hello all

I think if you progress a birth chart of 9d 11m Gemini rising to 9/11 you will see the necessary aspects. Based on July 4. 1776, 2.20 am, Philidelphia.
You may know of Robert Hands comments about the clock on the back of the 100 dollar bill. It reads about 2;21 and of course was a 12 hour clock and so am or pm are both possible. I came up with my 9d Gemini 11m chart without the knowdledge of the clock (so Im off about 1 min or so). I came up with this chart lone before 9/11 as well. It seems ironical that the numbers 9 & 11 agree.

Gene Ray
Founder, The Astrologers Fourm

]]> By: Susan Custer http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/09/12/astrology-of-current-affairs-the-astrological-path-to-911/#comment-329 Susan Custer Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:45:33 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=122#comment-329 I like you comment about astrologers and the VOC. That's so funny, and so true. Frawley may have said the same thing Lee Lehman used to say. Many of the strictures in horary are an excuse not to answer a question, not get your head chopped off, or take a vacation. Several years ago when Lee did experiements in biological labs, she noted the VOC Moon always caused unexpected, unexplained, results. As she said, it isn't that nothing happened, it's that the results were all so d... odd. I like you comment about astrologers and the VOC. That’s so funny, and so true. Frawley may have said the same thing Lee Lehman used to say. Many of the strictures in horary are an excuse not to answer a question, not get your head chopped off, or take a vacation.

Several years ago when Lee did experiements in biological labs, she noted the VOC Moon always caused unexpected, unexplained, results. As she said, it isn’t that nothing happened, it’s that the results were all so d… odd.

]]> By: Laura Elizabeth http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/09/12/astrology-of-current-affairs-the-astrological-path-to-911/#comment-328 Laura Elizabeth Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:50:52 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=122#comment-328 This is fascinating! I can't recall anyone else harking back to the 1762 chart before now. Is it possible that the 20 year cycle of Presidential death was broken with 9/11 then? Instead of loosing a President, the Nation lost itself? Or have I wandered too far down the rabbit hole? This is fascinating! I can’t recall anyone else harking back to the 1762 chart before now.

Is it possible that the 20 year cycle of Presidential death was broken with 9/11 then? Instead of loosing a President, the Nation lost itself? Or have I wandered too far down the rabbit hole?

]]> By: gryphonastrology http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/09/12/astrology-of-current-affairs-the-astrological-path-to-911/#comment-326 gryphonastrology Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:46:16 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=122#comment-326 Dear Susan, Thank you for visiting my blog and for your kind words. I appreciate both very much. As far as the VOC Moon goes...well, I have found that the only thing that stops functioning during VOC periods are astrologers. The Mars-Saturn connection is a theme repeated from the Grand Conjunction chart and bears watching. I am not sure what this "Pluto" thing is. Warmly, Nina Gryphon Dear Susan,

Thank you for visiting my blog and for your kind words. I appreciate both very much. As far as the VOC Moon goes…well, I have found that the only thing that stops functioning during VOC periods are astrologers. The Mars-Saturn connection is a theme repeated from the Grand Conjunction chart and bears watching. I am not sure what this “Pluto” thing is.

Warmly,
Nina Gryphon

]]> By: Susan Custer http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/2006/09/12/astrology-of-current-affairs-the-astrological-path-to-911/#comment-327 Susan Custer Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:52:06 +0000 http://gryphonastrology.com/blog/?p=122#comment-327 Hi Nina, I'm enjoying your site. I appreciate classical astrology, and I'm lapping up your interpretations and articles. It makes sense to me that the chart for the Grand Conjunction of 1762 yields up quite a bit of information about the US, and maybe more than many of the charts used for the US. I've always wondered if the founding fathers were vague about a birth chart on purpose. After all, as you know from our studies in classical astrology, knowledge of a birth chart can be very powerful if misused. Many of them were Masons, knew astrology, and were very well versed in the esoteric traditions. Since you have a background in classical, I hope you don't mind if point out some of the things I've noticed going on in the 911 chart. Anything comments you have are appreciated. One thing I've always tossed around in my mind is the VOC Moon in the 911 chart. I'm still mulling it over. I never got around to comparing the charts for the cities involved with the event chart. This may be a good chance to dig out all the charts. To me, the event chart without the charts for the cities is only half of the picture. My reaction was very clear in the chart comparisons; so the effects on the cities must be considered. I didn't feel the horror that most people did on that day. Iv'e been shocked before due to a closeness to hijackings, wars and such, so I was more prepared than others. Here are a few other things I noticed in the 911-event chart. Morning Star Venus is the ruler of the ascendant, (which is in the Via Combusta), and ruler of the 8th of death. Venus and Sun are in mutual reception by triplicity, and Sun is separating from the Saturn/Pluto opposition. Out of bounds , exalted, Mars is less than 2degress from the south node opposing the VOC Moon. Saturn, which appears to be in a separating opposition to Pluto, is the dispositor of Mars. Saturn goes Rx on 9/26 and will oppose Pluto two more times. Mercury, ruler of 9th of foreigners, also rules the malefic 12th of sorrow, and is conjunct the ascendant, disposted by Venus and we see the loop with Sun/Venus. Mercury is in trine with Saturn, which I've read the ancients considered a malefic aspect. All the other positive aspects are separating. Nothing in the chart looks good. Thanks for your great insights and food for thought. Your comments are welcome anytime at my blog. www.theastrologypage.blogspot.com Susan Custer Hi Nina,

I’m enjoying your site. I appreciate classical astrology, and I’m lapping up your interpretations and articles.

It makes sense to me that the chart for the Grand Conjunction of 1762 yields up quite a bit of information about the US, and maybe more than many of the charts used for the US. I’ve always wondered if the founding fathers were vague about a birth chart on purpose. After all, as you know from our studies in classical astrology, knowledge of a birth chart can be very powerful if misused. Many of them were Masons, knew astrology, and were very well versed in the esoteric traditions.

Since you have a background in classical, I hope you don’t mind if point out some of the things I’ve noticed going on in the 911 chart. Anything comments you have are appreciated.

One thing I’ve always tossed around in my mind is the VOC Moon in the 911 chart. I’m still mulling it over.

I never got around to comparing the charts for the cities involved with the event chart. This may be a good chance to dig out all the charts. To me, the event chart without the charts for the cities is only half of the picture. My reaction was very clear in the chart comparisons; so the effects on the cities must be considered. I didn’t feel the horror that most people did on that day. Iv’e been shocked before due to a closeness to hijackings, wars and such, so I was more prepared than others.

Here are a few other things I noticed in the 911-event chart.

Morning Star Venus is the ruler of the ascendant, (which is in the Via Combusta), and ruler of the 8th of death. Venus and Sun are in mutual reception by triplicity, and Sun is separating from the Saturn/Pluto opposition.

Out of bounds , exalted, Mars is less than 2degress from the south node opposing the VOC Moon. Saturn, which appears to be in a separating opposition to Pluto, is the dispositor of Mars. Saturn goes Rx on 9/26 and will oppose Pluto two more times.

Mercury, ruler of 9th of foreigners, also rules the malefic 12th of sorrow, and is conjunct the ascendant, disposted by Venus and we see the loop with Sun/Venus. Mercury is in trine with Saturn, which I’ve read the ancients considered a malefic aspect. All the other positive aspects are separating.

Nothing in the chart looks good.

Thanks for your great insights and food for thought.

Your comments are welcome anytime at my blog. http://www.theastrologypage.blogspot.com

Susan Custer

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